For Sale: 1948 GMC Bus in Carson, California
Massive price drop, now only 15k FIRM!! Needs some auto trans work, and elbow grease!!
I have been asked meany times what the issue is with the transmission, so here it is The issue with the tranny, is that it has a holding tank for the trans fluid. And the tank apparently has a very small pin hole leak in it.
And over about a 9 mo. After meanly meanly meanly hours on the net and making cold calls I found out it has a spicier 2 speed auto trans but I can't seem to find anyone still alive that knows what it takes for trans fluid?? I have spoke to people and have gotten different answers. Everything from Diesel oil to whale oil. After countless days trying to figure this out, I finely gave up!! I know the correct answer and fluid is out there, but it just became to frustrating, so I put it up for sale!!
Top speed is about 65 MPH Cruzes at 60 just fine!!
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Wen I bought it I drove it from Idaho, the long way around along the Columbia River, and had no issues. Till I parked it and it sat Maybe you'll have better luck finding out what it takes for trans fluid. As nostalgia goes, it's hella kool!! Extremely rare!! For 4 pages of pictures to gaze upon check the following link in a new window Scott P. So please quit calling to try to help me sell it, your wasting your time!!!!!!! Extremely rare, one of 3 ever made!! AND Extremely rare!!
Needs some elbow grease, and a little fixing here and there!! My Location. Graham 25k FIRM!! Report Ad. Contact Poster by Email. Email Poster Message.SMF 2. Welcome, Guest. Please login or register. Pages: [ 1 ] Ornduff Member Posts: My wife and I plan to restore and modernize the bus so that we can travel in it extensively. We have a 32' Class C motorhome currently and would like to have something that is more "us".
My wife and I own and operate a classic car restoration business, I have been in business for over 20 years, so I am not concerned about the challenges that are coming at us in this bus venture. Although this bus will be a big project, it will not be the most challenging project I have undertaken.
I have spent hours on this forum searching through old threads about classic bus powertrain upgrades, but have not gotten the answers i desire. I hope I am not rehashing more of the same, because I hate it when I see it on other forums.
My concern is the DD will not perform to my liking, I know that this is a great engine, but I want to be able to pull a toad, and not piss off every driver on the road when I have to do 20 mph on a small grade.
I am wanting to know if anyone has put an upgraded powertrain in their Silverside, and what would your advice be to me starting fresh. I am open to any power plant also I would like to maybe put an Allison in it I have also toyed with the idea of maybe putting a freight liner chassis under it as a total swap.
A hot rodded bus if you will. Or maybe I am wrong, is the able to do what I need it to do? Change it to a T? Thanks in advance, Sean. Templar52 Member Posts: Sean,i think that you choose the wrong bus for what you want to do.
Thats my point of view. Many factors are involved here. I have a 57 with and 4 speed also. Does it blow black smoke when driving on normal roads, up hills or what? Maybe more info can be given to help us NUTS help you. Hey Sean, I'm new to this too.
Love the looks of the silverside I recently purchased a 64 mc5 that was well maintained and setup I was lucky. I'm with you, these things are beautiful!
Can't wait to see what you do, with your capabilities it'll be cool [emoji41] I'm not a "motor" guy but get your concern. I finally after 6 weeks felt that I understood my machine to be safe and prepared for the mile ride home. What a blast! I almost peed my self.They were the crowning achievement for Yellow Coach Manufacturing Company in The first silverside buses were manufactured and sold for only two years, during which time sales totaled buses.
Immediately following the conclusion of World War Two, Greyhound was looking to develop a new bus design, however when their efforts failed they ordered new silverside buses to replace the dilapidated fleets that powered America through the wartime. Per production records, 1, of the new Greyhounds would be the passenger model PD, with the remaining buses built as the, larger capacity, passenger model PD It was common for them to have long hoods and luggage carriers affixed to the roof.
Many of these early buses were powered by the time-tested Chevrolet Straight 6. While the Chevrolet straight 6 engines were reliable and numerous in their day they suffered from a lack of torque, and efficiency.
With these design pitfalls in mind, Yellow Coach enlisted the help of Dwight Austin and his angle drive gearbox design. Austin and his staff also worked with Greyhound to develop a new highway coach.
Passengers sat on a raised deck and luggage was stored in enclosed bays under the floor instead of being strapped to the roof. The rear-mounted transverse engine with V-drive permitted a flat front design with increased visibility and maneuverability. Also worth mentioning, is that the Yellow Coach introduced air conditioning to commercial buses.
When Greyhound approached Yellow Coach they undoubtedly had no idea how iconic their design would become, let alone develop an almost cult-like following from bus collectors and historians. This, in turn, gave the buses their distinctive silversides and created a legend of the highways. The rounded body lines, polished exterior, and the deafening roar of the Detroit made these buses unforgettable to anyone who had the good fortune to experience one.
Image Copyright Mitch Goldman. The bus that we will look at is owned by a friend of mine, his name is Scott, and he is the proud owner of this PD With many years of trekking south and back north again, the bus found itself sitting idle in a shed for nearly twenty years. After one of the owners passing they decided to sell the bus. Scott happened to see the listing and immediately arranged to go look at this storied piece of history. After laying his own eyes upon it, he knew he had to have it, so money was exchanged and he was officially the proud owner of a silverside bus.
The bus needed some work before it made the 4-hour journey home. A local shop was called to pick it up and give it the once over.
In doing so they thrust those iconic body lines into the sunshine for the first time in nearly two decades. Upon getting it back to their shop they did the pertinent maintenance, replacing brake shoes, U-joints, and lubricants. They also successfully breathed life back into the Detroit, getting it running with some fresh fuel, oil, and filters. Once the bus was road ready Scott made the trip to Brainerd to bring his prized purchase home, he mentioned it was a very long trip home and he struggled with the steep learning curve of trying to figure out how to shift that Spicer 4 speed.
After a few uphill stalls, missed shifts, and ground gears the bus and Scott made it home safe. He wasted no time in getting to work on it, pulling the old mattresses, appliances, generator, and plumbing from the bus.
He then took to removing the years of paint from the distinctive silversides. He spent numerous hours with his paint stripper, putty knife, pressure washer, and orbital sander to get the bus looking like a silverside again.
After his many hours of work, he decided to put his restoration project on hold for a while. He admitted the size and scope of this project were much more than he had anticipated. I want to show you some of the features of this bus, some of these features you will have seen in more modern applications, while some are better left in The GM "old-look" transit bus is a transit bus that was introduced in by Yellow Coach beginning with the production of the model TG bus.
The Yellow Coach badge gave way to the GM nameplate in Production of most "old-look" models was stopped upon the release of the GM New-Look bus inhowever some smaller "old-look" models continued to be built until Approximately 38, "old-look" buses were built during the year production run.
The "old-look" name is an unofficial retronym applied to this series of GM buses after the release of the GM New-Look series.
The GM "old-look" bus was somewhat streamlined in appearance resembling the PCC streetcar in stylingsimilar in shape to a loaf of sandwich bread, and had windows that were smaller than those found on more modern bus designs produced after the s. Unlike most earlier buses, the GM "old-look" bus was built using a monocoque design, rather than a body-on-frame design, and it helped shepherd the change from gasoline to diesel -powered buses.
Most "old-look" buses were powered with the Detroit Diesel inline six-cylinder diesel engine, the exceptions being the shorter models that were powered by the four-cylinder version of the same diesel engine, and buses that were equipped with gasoline engines. Manual and automatic transmissions were available, with the Spicer angle-drive two-speed transmission being used on automatic-equipped buses built prior to Afterthe 2-speed Allison V-drive transmission was used on automatic-equipped buses.
The "old-look" was available in several lengths ranging from 25 feet 7. Most "old-look" buses were 96 inches 2. In GM began offering its Thermo-matic heating and ventilation system, and in started making suburban models identifiable by larger passenger windows, and equipped with high-backed forward-facing seats and optional luggage racks. Beginning inair-ride suspension became standard on all but the smallest model buses, and inair conditioning was added as an available option. InGM introduced its New-Look bus with the "fishbowl" style front window, and production stopped on all "old-look" buses other than the "second-generation" models: the foot 8.
The model designations used for GM "old-look" buses consisted of a series of two or three letters followed by a series of four numbers for example, TDH The letters and numbers gave a basic description of the type of bus as follows:. The following buses are listed by ascending model number. All buses are 96 inches wide unless noted.
Agreement was reached to build GM's model TDH under license but with diesel-electric propulsion, similar to that used for the TDExx modelsand production was assigned to ZiS Zavod imeni Stalina: literally Plant named after Stalin where it became their model number Continuing issues with the reliability of the drive-train components resulted in the ZIS being discontinued after only slightly more than four years of production and 1, units.
In some places these buses were nicknamed "lightning" because of the rapid acceleration provided by the diesel-electric drive. One source suggests that the "Moscow" prototypes had shrouds over the rear wheels, a more-stylized front wheel cut-out, and a larger radiator.
The most noticeable difference between the ZIS and the ZIS was the placement of the doors: since the ZIS had a front engine, the doors were moved to behind the axles. The driver's compartment was completely separated from the passenger saloon by a bulkhead, so the buses were two-man operated, with a rear entrance and front exit.
The employed unibody construction, while the was body-on-frame.
GM "old-look" transit bus
Besides being the standard city bus in the Soviet Union in the s, a large quantity were exported to other Eastern Bloc countries, and are known to have been used in Warsaw, Berlin, Ulan Bator and Beijing.
A twelve-seat long-distance version was also built. In Moscow a number of withdrawn units were rebuilt as trailers, but they were not a success as the ZIS was underpowered and therefore had difficulty pulling a fully loaded trailer, too. From the ZIS was equipped with an alternator instead of a generator, the first Soviet bus to be so equipped. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page.This vehicle has been sold. Favorite. Browse Category. The GM 'old-look' transit bus is a transit bus that was introduced in by Yellow Coach beginning with the production of the model TG bus. The Yellow Coach badge gave way to the GM nameplate in Production of most 'old-look' models was stopped upon the release of the GM New-Look bus in The TDH bus is powered by a Detroit Diesel inline 6 cylinder diesel engine and connected to a Spicer 91 angle drive 2 speed transmission.
The TDH has been fully restored inside and out using the correct tri tone color combination of a white roof, dark green middle and pale green bottom color. The exterior also features front and rear double folding doors, Slanted front windshield glass, Southern California Rapid Transit District badging and side placards. This specific TDH is a 28 passenger seated bus with polished hand rails and recovered vinyl seats in the correct pale green color.
The interior also has a period correct fare box, period correct epoxy plastic white steering wheel with GMC center badge, complete dash board with speedometer, oil pressure gauge, air pressure gauge as well as all the switches for exterior lights, dome lights, headlights high and low, step light, buzzer, sign control and door controls.
The bus rides on a full air suspension with air brakes as well as inch 6 lug steel wheels wrapped in Power King tube style tires all the way around. Don't miss the opportunity of catching this rare and hard to find bus which would make a perfect and eye catching addition to any collection or museum of transportation history. Interested In Other Items?
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Body excellent condition a I am listing this for my Grandfather. He had intended to build this into a motorhome but with work and life, he became too busy and never was able to get the project going. He has owned this since has title in hand. Unfortunately, some of the windows have been broken out over the years. The story is that this bus was used in on for many years with the Brooklyn Dodgers as an equipment bus if anybody has any information on this bus please call or text anytime.
Has its own 4 cyl flathead motor for the air,big carrier V twin pump, no motor or trans. Passenger seats are gone but rear seat is there. Sold with bill of sale only Dart in background is The bus has a light and airy interior with a full kitchen, full bath with shower.
Walking pass the kitchen area are 2 six feet long each bunks on either side of the hallway. Then in the rear of the bus are two more bunks but this area could be My Location. Report Ad. Contact Poster by Email. Email Poster Message.